The False Christian Faith of Barry Soetoro,* (a.k.a. Barack Obama) by Jack Kettler
To this day, members of the so-called main-line-media and many leading conservatives say we must take Barry at his words and accept his claim to a Christian serious. Why?
Consider; A Tree and its Fruit:
“Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.…” (Mathew 7: 15-17)
“As the old saying goes, 'From evildoers come evil deeds,' so my hand will not touch you.” (1 Samuel 24:13)
“Even small children are known by their actions, so is their conduct really pure and upright?” (Proverbs 20:11)
“My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.” (James 3:12)
In what follows, I cover no new ground, I simply cite a number of stories on Barry and his association with “Liberation Theology” and questionable people. The first important story on Barry comes from the “Right Scoop” which quotes Barry in his own words on Islam and Christianity.
In his own words: Barack Obama on Islam and Christianity
From this article, the truth about Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Obama's) faith can be known. One thing is sure, it is not Christian Faith in any historic sense of the Christian Faith:
OBAMA ON ISLAM:
1. “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”
2. “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”
3. “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”
4. “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
5. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
6. “Islam has always been part of America”
7. “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”
8. “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”
9. “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”
10. “I made it clear that America is not – and will never be – at war with Islam.”
11. “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”
12. “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”
13. “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”
14. “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
15. “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”
16. “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”
17. “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”
18. “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”
19. “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
20. “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
OBAMA ON CHRISTIANITY:
1. “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
2. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”
3. “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”
4. “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”
5. “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”
6. From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”
7. Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
8. “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”
9. “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”
10. “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”
11. “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”
12. “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”
13. “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”
14. On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”
15. “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
16. “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”
17. “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”
18. “We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”“All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra— (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”
19. “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.” End of quotes
Historic Christians, whether Roman Catholic or Protestant after analyzing the above quotes would be hard pressed to make a case that Barry Soetoro has the faintest clue about the Christian Faith. The next citation of part of an interview, conducted by Cathleen Falsani at god-father-politics online continues to prove the point that Barry does not have the foggiest notion of what Christianity is.
As will be documented further by information links, Barry was extensively indoctrinated into “Liberation Theology” which is Marxism dressed up in Christian terminology. In my opinion, Barry's picture of Christ would probably would look like Che Guevara rather than the biblical Jesus.
Cathleen Falsani with Barack Obama in 2004 when he was running for the US Senate:
FALSANI: “Do you believe in heaven?”
OBAMA: “Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?”
FALSANI: “A place spiritually you go to after you die?”
OBAMA: “What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.
When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven.”
FALSANI: “Do you believe in sin?”
FALSANI: “What is sin?”
OBAMA: “Being out of alignment with my values.”
FALSANI: “What happens if you have sin in your life?”
OBAMA: “I think it's the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I'm true to myself and my faith then that is its own reward; when I'm not true to it, it's its own punishment.”
An Excursus from Cathleen Falsani's interview with Obama:
A brief survey of Protestant, Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox views of sin is in order:
Protestant Westminster Shorter Catechism Question 14
Q: What is sin?
A: Sin is any want of conformity unto, or transgression of, the law of God.(1)
( 1) John 3:4. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Romans 3:23. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
Catechism of the Catholic Church - Sin
Sin is an offense against God: "Against you, you alone, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight." Sin sets itself against God's love for us and turns our hearts away from it. Like the first sin, it is disobedience, a revolt against God
through the will to become "like gods," knowing and determining good and evil. Sin is thus "love of oneself even to contempt of God." In this proud self-exaltation, sin is diametrically opposed to the obedience of Jesus, which achieves our salvation.
The Eastern Orthodox definition of sin?
In Greek—the language in which the New Testament was written—the word for “sin” is “amartia,” which literally means “to miss the mark.” For Christians, the “mark” for which we strive is to live in communion with God, basing our lives
and actions on the life and actions of Jesus Christ; hence, when we “miss this
mark” we sin.
There is a basic agreement between the Three main Branches of Christianity on sin.
Back to Cathleen Falsani's analysis of Obama's knowledge of sin and God:
Christianity clearly teaches that sin is man’s disobedience of God. Because of man’s sin, man only has the right to go to Hell which is why we need a Savior. The Savior is Jesus Christ who as God came to earth in the form of a man, lived a sinless life, was crucified on the Cross for OUR sins, died, was buried and the rose from the dead and ascended into heaven where He prepares a place for us.
Yet from his own mouth, Obama has no idea if there is a heaven or afterlife and sin is when something goes against his own values. He has absolutely no concept what Christianity is or what it teaches. All he knows is that if he is good, he will get rewarded somewhere and sin about his values, not God’s.
See more from this interview at:
As Cathleen Falsani exposes, Barry does not have a credible knowledge of man's sin, his own sin, and redemptive salvation in Christ who gives hope in the future resurrection. Without a correct knowledge and awareness and confession of your own sin, you would never seek salvation in Christ's substitutionary atonement.
The information at the following links serve to confirm what the above two citations of Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Obama) in his own words make clear, namely, that we are dealing with a man who has a false profession of the historic Christian Faith:
The Gospel According Barack Obama’s Pastor: Black Liberation Theology
Obama’s Black Liberation Theology is ‘Afro-Nazism’
Is Obama Really a Christian?
Obama, Black Liberation Theology and Karl Marx...Revisited
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH - BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY
Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
The Shocking Source of Obama’s Religion
Is Obama really a true Christian?
The Gospel according to Obama
Mag Makes Case Against Obama's Proclaimed Christianity
Obama is acting out Christian Black Liberation theology on America
Barack Obama: A wolf in sheep's clothing
In conclusion, would Barry be illegible for membership in your church or approved to take communion after seeing his beliefs on Islam and Christianity? His understanding of Christ and sin are clearly inadequate and would disqualify him for membership in churches that practice godly discipline.
In the opinion of many, the alleged Christian Faith of Barry Soetoro, (a.k.a. Barack Obama) is a complete sham and individuals who continue to insist that Barry is a Christian are irresponsible. The responsible thing to do, is highlight that Barry, by his own statements on the details of his faith make it clear that he is not a Christian, and Christians should call him to repentance and should pray for his salvation.
* I generally call him Barry because that was his adopted name when he attended a Muslim school in Indonesia. There are no public records available on when and if he ever changed his legally to Obama. In addition, as noted by presidential candidate Ben Carson, all of Obama's past records are sealed. Why would a Christian hide his past by keeping it secret? If you take issue with my use of Barry, correct me by pointing me to appropriate documents where his name was legally changed.
Pursuing appropriate conduct, a Christian must lay a solid foundation, building on principles from God’s Word (John 14:26; 16:13–14; 1 John 5:6; Psalm 119:105; 2 Timothy 3:16–17). This is particularly important when a Christian considers doing things in secret.
“For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.” (Mark 4:22)
Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons believe in a different Jesus than the Jesus of the Christian Scriptures. Faith in a false Jesus cannot save you. Likewise, Barry believes in false Jesus. Therefore, he is not a Christian.
“Not every one that said to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 7:21)
Mr. Kettler is the owner of http://www.Undergroundnotes.com web site where his theological, philosophical and political articles can be read.